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【IMP3试听】关于Lynx HILO/KECES/珍珠2/线世界白金星的一点听感和思考
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　　因为个人财力的问题，总是习惯性的把注意力放在很多性价比比较高的设备上，尤其是一些 像Prism sound，RME，Lynx，Lavry这样专业大厂的亲民价格产品。最近比较关注的设备和大家一样，无非就是Lyra2和HILO两个冤家死对头。本篇听感将主要和大家分享下HILO的听感及搭配。废话不说，切入正题。
　　试听设备：笔记本（JPLAY+JR）+线世界白金星+珍珠2+铁骨龙D1+HILO
　　HILO初听最大的印象就是中性。这种中性被拿捏的十分准确。是笔者听过的所有设备中最为恰当的拿捏，不管任何方面都没有丝毫的过分偏倚。如果非要认真剖析，可能整个声底还是稍微的暖了一些。但是在两端的延伸上稍显弱势，在上盘部分有些时候又会有些刮耳。这种情况在连接KECES线性电源后得到了明显的改善。连接线性电源后，HILO的细节更加实在，也突出很多，分析力优异。尤其是在使用HD800时，音乐中的每个细节让你会目不暇接。很多曲目会让你感到既熟悉又陌生。这种强大的密度感让你完全可以通过“脑补”来复原演奏者现场演奏时的场景，各种拨弦动作历历在目。从分析力、素质表现上来看，HILO无异在同价位设备中拥有非常大的优势。但同时HILO也有一些问题，比如这种强大的分析力带来了极高的密度，加之其非常中性的风格，HILO如果搭配不挡很容易在长时间聆听时产生听觉疲劳。个人感觉一台风格柔和细腻，味道丰富的耳放产品会更适合与其搭配。我试着把身边能找到的几只耳放都拿来尝试与其搭配，WA22，RKV和GA-09这三只不同价位的产品都表现不错，金牛却与其明显的不太搭。
　　下面再说下珍珠2界面和HILO的自带界面。HILO的自带USB界面是XMOS架构的。据XMOS作者的说法，HILO的界面应该是XMOS架构界面中最优秀的。但是从实际试听中笔者感觉其并不符实。HILO自带界面与其说柔和了原机的凌厉听感，更多的是削弱了HILO原有的密度，换取了更舒适的听感。而换做珍珠2界面后，HILO原有的风格才更加真是的表现了出来。珍珠2的这种听感是通过与笔者手中的M2TECH EVO+CLOCK套装对比后得到的。珍珠2和EVO套下的HILO听感基本一致，都明显的好于原配界面。因为时间关系，我并没有测试原配界面播放DSD的能力。不知会不会在播放DSD时会有更好的表现。对于USB线的选择，白金星是一条很特别的线。我感觉他的使用中最大的特点就是一种气质的表现，和对听感的一种补充。而且这种改变是容易分辨和感知的。并不是什么虚无缥缈的玄学问题，基本可以做到木耳亦能感知的地步。这种感觉在使用其他的USB线时是从未感受到的。
　　最后，我实在AB了下HILO和自己的MSB铂金DACII签名版。虽然DACII作为当年近十万元的MSB的旗舰作品，HILO从素质上来说亦不落下风。差距主要还是在听感。MSB在保留了足够高的素质同时，拥有更舒适的听感和明显的美式风格。而HILO还是缺少了那么点特点和足够好的听感。不过这可能有点强人所难了，毕竟HILO的售价只有DACII的1/5。
　　更多的搭配听感持续更新中。欢迎大家一起讨论！后面会再谈一下LYRA2的具体听感。
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TA的每日心情奋斗 09:58签到天数: 3 天[LV.2]偶尔看看I
楼主的第一句话明显和下边图片的风格不搭调啊
TA的每日心情郁闷 16:35签到天数: 4 天[LV.2]偶尔看看I
都是好东西，只能看看图解馋:monkey:0003:
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nion:0006:不打听过啊
TA的每日心情郁闷 11:13签到天数: 226 天[LV.7]常住居民III
给差评& &第一句话明显与实际不符
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楼主的第一句话明显和下边图片的风格不搭调啊
就是就是……
TA的每日心情衰 13:48签到天数: 4 天[LV.2]偶尔看看I
好奢侈的赶脚~~
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感人至深の“亲民价格”
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壕亲民的价格
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大概什么价位
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有钱淫，不解释。。。。。
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这壕的无法直视的设备真是太亲民了nion:0002:
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lyra的听感呢。。。
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272 Posts.
Joined 2/2012
Location: Norway
Brings life and emotion to Sennheiser HD 800
Originally Posted by rxs0 Any opinions on the Headphone amplifier of the Lynx Hilo?
Any other users of the Hilo on this forum?
My first impressions based on a
demo in a demo room lasting approx. 5 hours:
Source, DAC and headphone amplifier:
Windows 7 + foobar2000 -& USB -& Lynx Hilo
Lynx Hilo -& digital -& Grace Design m903
Lynx Hilo -& digital -& Benchmark DAC1 HDR
Each was used as both DAC and headphone amplifier. "digital means either RCA S/PDIF or Toslink". I think Grace Design was fed with Toslink.
Headphones:
Sennheiser HD 800 with all three
Sennheiser HD 650 only with Grace Design m903, and for the first 1-1.5 hours
Lynx Hilo, Benchmark DAC1 HDR, Sennheiser HD 800, and Sennheiser HD 650 belonged to the demo company. State of run in unknown to me. Grace Design m903 belongs to me and has been run in and in use for 1 3/4 years.
Lynx Hilo: April 2012 firm ware and Windows driver v. 1.55
Music: Varied and well known to me.
Important notice: I listen at (very) moderate loudness levels, many would (probably) call them (very) low.
Sennheiser HD 650 was very nice with Grace Design m903. My thought about the HD 650 during/after the session was "So that's what all the fuzz is about". For comparison: The day before I tried Audeze LCD2.2 bamboo with the same PC and USB to Grace Design m903. My thought during/after the session was "What's all the fuzz about?" and "Much Ado About Nothing".
Denon AH-D7000 is very good with Grace Design m903 by the way, and it's also been very good as a DAC for STAX SR-009 + STAX SRM-007t.
Unfortunately I haven't been as a happy with Sennheiser HD 800 which I've experienced hasn't involved nor moved me. It has more or less left me as a (distant) observer instead of taking hold of and moving me. It has what we in Norwegian refer to as low or lacking goose bumps factor (Norwegian: g?sehudfaktor). Ditto for toe tapping, head bopping and body movement factor. I've hence earlier asked on the Norwegian forum Hifisentralen whether the HD 800 might be emotionally handicapped. Not everyone was happy with me even asking the question, even though I actually also at the same time asked whether anyone had suggestions for headphone amplifiers that might remedy this problem. Unfortunately I didn't get any good suggestions.
I got curious about the Lynx Hilo for different reasons. Sennheiser HD 800 was used for the demo because it was a headphone I own that was available at the demo company. I had also hoped for a beyerdynamic T 1, but it wasn't available, and I couldn't travel across the country carrying a lot of stuff.
The Lynx Hilo did good things for Sennheiser HD 800 (and me). Suddenly HD 800 could rock, roll, boogie, move me and more. It even had soul. There was toe tapping, head and body movement. Whenever I connected it to Grace Design m903 or Benchmark DAC1 HDR, the wish to move etc. subsided or vanished. I am so far not sure what factors are the source of this, but it was repeatable. The combination did well with any music I tried, new and old, good and "rusty" recordings, even severe loudness war victims like Duffy's "Rockferry" and The Seatsniffers' "Assembly Line".
I found this very attractive and enjoyable. At last, something that can give life and emotion to Sennheiser HD 800.
8,976 Posts.
Joined 10/2006
Location: Limbo
I"m using the Hilo and the T-1 to very good results. Very detailed without sounding clinical. The Hilo's hp amp holds up well against other ss amps I've listened to in SE mode. Plenty of bass impact without being overbearing. I like my SP hp amp better but it's a tube amp that cost more than the Hilo. But for convenience, you lose no performance using Hilo's hp amp. Plenty of power for dynamic headphones.
272 Posts.
Joined 2/2012
Location: Norway
The following may be of interest. It's from a Norwegian forum (), but some of the text is in English:
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Edited by CDWMcInSpots - 2/1/13 at 1:02pm
8,976 Posts.
Joined 10/2006
Location: Limbo
I am currently using the HE-4 on the headphone amp. They take everything the headphone out has to give it but play at a moderately loud level with no distortion. I've heard better amps for the 6, 5, 4. The 500, 400 & 300 will all play well off of it.
272 Posts.
Joined 2/2012
Location: Norway
Originally Posted by CDWMcInSpots The following may be of interest. It's from a Norwegian forum (), but some of the text is in English:
"" (Google Translate: "")
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In the same thread you will find "" and "" with Lynx Hilo headphone amplifier SPL calculations for these headphones.
Further out you will find a headphone specification look up table for all headphone impedances 16-700 Ω starting with "".
Prior to that you will find more information about the wireless remote control in "". Lynx Studio Technology cofounder and chief software engineer David A. Hoatson asks for input as to what functionality we would like to see in any remote control capability.
Some of the text is in English, the numbers probably will be understandable anyway.For the rest use Google Translate or similar if you don't read/understand written Norwegian, Danish, nor Swedish.
8,976 Posts.
Joined 10/2006
Location: Limbo
You are a technical fountain of knowledge. But in the case of the HE-6, numbers are misleading compared to performance. I'll not make judgment until my 6s are back. What the HE 4 shows though is that you can drive the headphone amp to max without distortion by trimming the input volume a touch. I had a very enjoyable evening with the HE-4s with enough extra power to handle the exciting parts without influence.
272 Posts.
Joined 2/2012
Location: Norway
Originally Posted by Happy Camper
You are a technical fountain of knowledge. [...]
339 Posts.
Joined 1/2013
Location: Oslo, Norway
Noone else have anything to share about the Hilo?
Hoping to audition one for my HD800 and as a DAC for SR-009 next week some time...
339 Posts.
Joined 1/2013
Location: Oslo, Norway
Worked fine in windows7 after driver installation, going to try it on mountain lion tonight, however it doesn't play well with ubuntu linux 12.10, not by default anyway... On the off chance anyone has some pointers I'll put some extra info in spoilers below:
$ uname -a
Linux antapex 3.5.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Feb 7 01:50:30 UTC
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
$ dpkg -l | grep 'alsa-'
1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu3
ALSA driver configuration files
alsa-utils
1.0.25-3ubuntu2.1
Utilities for configuring and using ALSA
[] usb 2-1.5: new high-speed USB device number 11 using ehci_hcd
[] usb 2-1.5: New USB device found, idVendor=247f, idProduct=3231
[] usb 2-1.5: New USB device strings: Mfr=28, Product=27, SerialNumber=1
[] usb 2-1.5: Product: Lynx Hilo
[] usb 2-1.5: Manufacturer: Lynx
[] usb 2-1.5: SerialNumber: 321244XXXX
[] __uac_clock_find_source(): selector reported illegal value, id 40, ret 6
[] parse_audio_format_rates_v2(): unable to find clock source (clock -22)
[] __uac_clock_find_source(): selector reported illegal value, id 40, ret 6
[] __uac_clock_find_source(): selector reported illegal value, id 40, ret 6
[] parse_audio_format_rates_v2(): unable to find clock source (clock -22)
[] __uac_clock_find_source(): selector reported illegal value, id 40, ret 6
# lsusb -v -d 247f:3231
Bus 002 Device 011: ID 247f:3231
Device Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDeviceClass
239 Miscellaneous Device
bDeviceSubClass
bDeviceProtocol
1 Interface Association
bMaxPacketSize0
iManufacturer
27 Lynx Hilo
1 321244XXXX
bNumConfigurations
Configuration Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
wTotalLength
bNumInterfaces
bConfigurationValue
iConfiguration
bmAttributes
(Missing must-be-set bit!)
Self Powered
Interface Association:
bDescriptorType
bFirstInterface
bInterfaceCount
bFunctionClass
bFunctionSubClass
bFunctionProtocol
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
1 Control Device
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (HEADER)
wTotalLength
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
10 (CLOCK_SOURCE)
bmAttributes
0x03 Internal programmable Clock
bmControls
Clock Frequency Control (read/write)
Clock Validity Control (read-only)
bAssocTerminal
iClockSource
2 Hilo Clock Source
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
11 (CLOCK_SELECTOR)
baCSourceID( 0)
bmControls
Clock Selector Control (read-only)
iClockSelector
9 Clock Selector
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID
wTerminalType
0x0101 USB Streaming
bAssocTerminal
bCSourceID
bNrChannels
bmChannelConfig
bmControls
iChannelNames
11 Hilo USB Play 1
27 Lynx Hilo
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID
wTerminalType
0x0301 Speaker
bAssocTerminal
bCSourceID
bmControls
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID
wTerminalType
0x0201 Microphone
bAssocTerminal
bCSourceID
bNrChannels
bmChannelConfig
bmControls
iChannelNames
29 Hilo USB Record 1
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID
wTerminalType
0x0101 USB Streaming
bAssocTerminal
bCSourceID
bmControls
27 Lynx Hilo
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Synch Type
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink
bmControls
bFormatType
bNrChannels
bmChannelConfig
iChannelNames
11 Hilo USB Play 1
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType
1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize
bBitResolution
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Isochronous
Synch Type
Asynchronous
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
0x24 bytes
AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes
bmControls
bLockDelayUnits
2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Isochronous
Synch Type
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink
bmControls
bFormatType
bNrChannels
bmChannelConfig
iChannelNames
29 Hilo USB Record 1
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType
1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize
bBitResolution
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Isochronous
Synch Type
Asynchronous
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
0x24 bytes
AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes
bmControls
bLockDelayUnits
2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
1 Control Device
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (HEADER)
wTotalLength
bInCollection
baInterfaceNr( 0)
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
3 MIDI Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (HEADER)
wTotalLength
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (MIDI_IN_JACK)
1 Embedded
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (MIDI_IN_JACK)
2 External
46 Hilo Virtual MIDI In
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
3 (MIDI_OUT_JACK)
1 Embedded
bNrInputPins
baSourceID( 0)
BaSourcePin( 0)
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
3 (MIDI_OUT_JACK)
2 External
bNrInputPins
baSourceID( 0)
BaSourcePin( 0)
45 Hilo Virtual MIDI Out
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Synch Type
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
bSynchAddress
MIDIStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (GENERAL)
bNumEmbMIDIJack
baAssocJackID( 0)
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Synch Type
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
bSynchAddress
MIDIStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (GENERAL)
bNumEmbMIDIJack
baAssocJackID( 0)
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
254 Application Specific Interface
bInterfaceSubClass
1 Device Firmware Update
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
18 Hilo USB Play 8
Device Firmware Upgrade Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bmAttributes
Will Not Detach
Manifestation Tolerant
Upload Supported
Download Supported
wDetachTimeout
250 milliseconds
wTransferSize
Configuration Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
wTotalLength
bNumInterfaces
bConfigurationValue
iConfiguration
bmAttributes
(Missing must-be-set bit!)
Self Powered
Interface Association:
bDescriptorType
bFirstInterface
bInterfaceCount
bFunctionClass
bFunctionSubClass
bFunctionProtocol
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
1 Control Device
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (HEADER)
wTotalLength
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
10 (CLOCK_SOURCE)
bmAttributes
0x03 Internal programmable Clock
bmControls
Clock Frequency Control (read/write)
Clock Validity Control (read-only)
bAssocTerminal
iClockSource
2 Hilo Clock Source
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
11 (CLOCK_SELECTOR)
baCSourceID( 0)
bmControls
Clock Selector Control (read-only)
iClockSelector
9 Clock Selector
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID
wTerminalType
0x0101 USB Streaming
bAssocTerminal
bCSourceID
bNrChannels
bmChannelConfig
bmControls
iChannelNames
11 Hilo USB Play 1
27 Lynx Hilo
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID
wTerminalType
0x0301 Speaker
bAssocTerminal
bCSourceID
bmControls
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID
wTerminalType
0x0201 Microphone
bAssocTerminal
bCSourceID
bNrChannels
bmChannelConfig
bmControls
iChannelNames
29 Hilo USB Record 1
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
bTerminalID
wTerminalType
0x0101 USB Streaming
bAssocTerminal
bCSourceID
bmControls
27 Lynx Hilo
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Synch Type
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink
bmControls
bFormatType
bNrChannels
bmChannelConfig
iChannelNames
11 Hilo USB Play 1
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType
1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize
bBitResolution
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Isochronous
Synch Type
Asynchronous
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
0x24 bytes
AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes
bmControls
bLockDelayUnits
2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Isochronous
Synch Type
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
2 Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (AS_GENERAL)
bTerminalLink
bmControls
bFormatType
bNrChannels
bmChannelConfig
iChannelNames
29 Hilo USB Record 1
AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
bFormatType
1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
bSubslotSize
bBitResolution
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Isochronous
Synch Type
Asynchronous
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
0x24 bytes
AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (EP_GENERAL)
bmAttributes
bmControls
bLockDelayUnits
2 Decoded PCM samples
wLockDelay
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
1 Control Device
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (HEADER)
wTotalLength
bInCollection
baInterfaceNr( 0)
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
bInterfaceSubClass
3 MIDI Streaming
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (HEADER)
wTotalLength
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (MIDI_IN_JACK)
1 Embedded
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
2 (MIDI_IN_JACK)
2 External
46 Hilo Virtual MIDI In
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
3 (MIDI_OUT_JACK)
1 Embedded
bNrInputPins
baSourceID( 0)
BaSourcePin( 0)
MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
3 (MIDI_OUT_JACK)
2 External
bNrInputPins
baSourceID( 0)
BaSourcePin( 0)
45 Hilo Virtual MIDI Out
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Synch Type
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
bSynchAddress
MIDIStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (GENERAL)
bNumEmbMIDIJack
baAssocJackID( 0)
Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bEndpointAddress
bmAttributes
Transfer Type
Synch Type
Usage Type
wMaxPacketSize
bSynchAddress
MIDIStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bDescriptorSubtype
1 (GENERAL)
bNumEmbMIDIJack
baAssocJackID( 0)
Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bInterfaceNumber
bAlternateSetting
bNumEndpoints
bInterfaceClass
254 Application Specific Interface
bInterfaceSubClass
1 Device Firmware Update
bInterfaceProtocol
iInterface
18 Hilo USB Play 8
Device Firmware Upgrade Interface Descriptor:
bDescriptorType
bmAttributes
Will Not Detach
Manifestation Tolerant
Upload Supported
Download Supported
wDetachTimeout
250 milliseconds
wTransferSize
Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
bDescriptorType
bDeviceClass
239 Miscellaneous Device
bDeviceSubClass
bDeviceProtocol
1 Interface Association
bMaxPacketSize0
bNumConfigurations
Device Status:
(Bus Powered)
$ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 1: Hilo [Lynx Hilo], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
$ aplay -L
sysdefault:CARD=Hilo
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
dmix:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
Hardware device with all software conversions
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Other than that the headphone amp seems good, haven't spent more than a couple of hours of just casual listening to it yet...
Hoping to be able to do some critical listening and comparing it to a
sometime during the coming week.
272 Posts.
Joined 2/2012
Location: Norway
Originally Posted by CybDev
Worked fine in windows7 after driver installation, going to try it on mountain lion tonight, however it doesn't play well with ubuntu linux 12.10, not by default anyway... On the off chance anyone has some pointers I'll put some extra info in spoilers below: [...]
You can write an e-mail to Lynx Studio Technology. They answer quickly and thoroughly when they're not on trips like trade shows.
I have only tried Windows 7 so far.
Originally Posted by CybDev
Other than that the headphone amp seems good, haven't spent more than a couple of hours of just casual listening to it yet...
Hoping to be able to do some critical listening and comparing it to a
sometime during the coming week.
Did you use your Sennheiser HD 800 for this?
339 Posts.
Joined 1/2013
Location: Oslo, Norway
Yeah I basically reposted the info I gave here at their
They didn't list a contact address except for sales.
I guess I could file a support ticket but I figure I'll let the support forum thread be up a while first before I attempt the process of registering for the ticket system...
Nice, I also just tested it on a MBP retina with mountain lion briefly, seemed to work just fine at least using default soundsystem and rdio.
Didn't have any flac around right now, but I will tonight :-)
Yeah, and the SR-009's via SRM-323S.
8,976 Posts.
Joined 10/2006
Location: Limbo
The HE-500 are a very nice match for the headphone out of the Hilo. There is little to nothing to lose with my speaker amps. One of the better sounding pairings I've heard from the Hilo hp amp.
499 Posts.
Joined 1/2009
I'm half-way tempted to get the HILO just for the fake analog meters option. :)
However, I think I read somewhere on this forum that the HILO is fatiguing to listen to - too Pro-audio analytical and not enough audiophile musical in it's nature?
Currently using the E-MU 0404USB which is already pro-audio sounding and bright, so I don't want to end up with just a more expensive version of the same thing.
Or are there opinions to the contrary?
On a related note: does the HILO have any built-in parametric Equalization capabilities?
272 Posts.
Joined 2/2012
Location: Norway
Originally Posted by runswithaliens However, I think I read somewhere on this forum that the HILO is fatiguing to listen to - too Pro-audio analytical and not enough audiophile musical in it's nature?
Currently using the E-MU 0404USB which is already pro-audio sounding and bright, so I don't want to end up with just a more expensive version of the same thing.
Or are there opinions to the contrary?
I haven't heard E-MU 0404USB, but I do like my Lynx Hilo and Grace Design m903.
As usual I suppose this depends on your taste. Some audiophiles want sugar or even molasses added to the sound. Lynx Hilo and most other pro/studio equipment don't give you that. Their ideal is typically to be neutral/uncoloured etc. That doesn't automatically imply unpleasant or fatiguing, if you don't crave sugar, molasses, powder, perfume, etc. to the sound.
I have a feeling that this also may depend on the listener's preferred loudness level. People who listen at (very) high loudness levels may need some moderation, damping or sanding of the sound to make it bearable. Some times natural sound can be a bit to much, ie. percussion in a bare walled concrete room. Attending in door concerts or theatre I often find applause too intense for my ears (and plug them with my fingers).
Originally Posted by runswithaliens On a related note: does the HILO have any built-in parametric Equalization capabilities?
As far as I know it doesn't, but I may be wrong.
As you probably know Lynx Hilo is highly programmable, and new features are regularly developed and put out through firmware updates (2 in 2012). Lynx have openly asked its Hilo users for feature ideas. I have equalization on my wish list, but haven't gotten around to write an e-mail to Lynx including that yet.
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